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PostSubject: Re: Celebrity Ghost Stories   Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:28 pm

Widecome is actually Widecombe-in-the-Moor (pronounced Widdi-com) is actually a normal village filled with normal people most of the time lol!


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PostSubject: Re: Celebrity Ghost Stories   Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:35 pm

There is a webpage where you can read all about the village. This is the reply from the Secretary of
Widecombe History Group.


Hello America

I am replying to a series of emails that has been received here in Widecombe from USA regarding a television programme that you have recently seen on Your TV Stations.

I write to you all in my capacity of Secretary of our Local History Group.

I shall reply to all the queries in the one letter and send it to you all.

Marc: you started the ball rolling with your email and requested details of a 'ghost village' of Widecombe.

Widecombe is a thriving village with a great living community, certainly NOT a ghost village.

Regarding the different spelling - over the years it has been spelt in many ways but the real spelling is:- either -

WIDECOMBE, which is how we spell it now, this has got its name from Wide Coombe which means Wide Valley -

OR -

Witheycombe, this means Valley of the Witheys. - A WITHEY is the local name for Willow Tree and there are hundreds of them growing in the valley here.

On Sunday 21st October 1638, when the church was full for a service, a terrible thunder storm threatened the valley. One of the four pinnacles of the church tower was struck by lightening, with the result that it came crashing through the roof of the church and killed four people. One an ancestor of mine, a Susannah Beard. Parts of the tower were found in the Manor House Garden, 400 yards away to the north, and considerable damage done. The school master at that time was a Richard Hill, and he wrote a detailed summary of the event.

We understand that his manuscript is in The Bodleian Library of Oxford University.

Near the 'Rood Screen' at the front of the church two large 'granite' slabs are in the floor and that is where those that died that day are buried. One carries the date 21st Octobre 1638 - note the spelling of October!

In the 15th C. superstitions were rife and everything that happened that was GOOD was the work of OUR LORD and everything that happened that was BAD or even evil that could not easily be understood, was the work of Satan or the Devil.

This is how a ‘legend’ grew up: -

“That the Devil came to Widecombe to claim the soul of a man who was playing cards in the back of the church. The Devil tied his horse to one of the pinnacles, grasped the person, and in his haste to gallop away forgot to untie the horse, this pulled the pinnacle over, resulting in it crashing through the roof. As he galloped away across Dartmoor the four ‘aces’ fell out of the sleeve of the card player and landed on the ground and turned into four fields - they are visible today in the shape of a Heart, Diamond, Spade & Club.”

The fields are part of an old tin mining enterprise, so it can be seen how facts and fiction can get confused!

Regarding the people dressed in black. In rural areas of Devon, when there is a funeral of someone local or well known, most of the local people turn out to pay their last respects to the departed. It is possible that when the TV presenter was in the village, an event of this kind was taking place, and we would all have been in a solemn or sombre mood.

Now to Jon Cordas: Your letter asks about our church. Our Church is dedicated to St Pancras and due to its large size, it is affectionately known as "The Cathedral of the Moor". In its present form, it dates from the 14thC, but there is little doubt in my mind that there has been a church here for much longer - even to the point that it was of religious significance in pre-Christian days. There is a great deal of prehistoric evidence here on Dartmoor. I personally collect prehistoric implements and tools and the earliest that I have, date from 8000 B. C. There is no Roman evidence here but there was Roman activity within eight miles of here and of course in Exeter our County Town.

On the second Tuesday of September each year we hold the Annual Widecombe Fair. people come from all over the world to this special day when animals are shown, sporting events take place, the history of the area is on display. Widecombe Fair was an opportunity for farmers to sell stock when it was begun several hundred years ago, but now it is more of a fun gathering.

On Dartmoor there are many ghost stories, the hairy hands, black dogs, spectres, all mixed up with the legends as I mentioned earlier

MrsH81: We do not know of the TV programme. If ever you come to our village do let us know and we would be pleased to meet you. I do many guided walks around the village to raise funds for our History Group, and relate about our history.

Brian from Seattle: As you will have read by now, we do not have a steeple to our church but we do have four pinnacles. Not everyone died - four initially and a few more afterwards due to their extreme burns etc.

There are four large boards in church that relate the happening so if ever you visit you will be able to read all about the 1638 disaster.

Our History Group has written a small book about Widecombe, another about Widecombe Fair and these are obtainable through our website. There are several more of you that have written to us and I hope that I have answered most of your queries in this letter.

Thank you for your interest in Widecombe and we would like to send you all Season’s Greetings and all the Best for 2011.

Yours sincerely,

A. E. Beard (Hon. Secretary)

Widecombe History Group


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